Wednesday, January 29, 2025
Should you buy an EV?
Friday, November 8, 2024
Fuel Economy - What's your MPG?
...or, in EV terms, your mi/KWhr?
The answer is... It depends. And, it depends more if you're driving and EV.
We've been driving gasoline (or diesel) cars for a loooong time. We think about fuel economy in terms of mile per gallon. We kinda know that we get better mileage on the highway than driving around town. We've been told things to help us improve our MPG, like "avoid jackrabbit starts" and "avoid abrupt stops". The government has even gotten in on the game, mandating fleet average fuel economy numbers and publishing "EPA city and highway" fuel economy numbers, e.g. "18 city, 27 highway mpg".
Now, EVs show up and the whole game seems upside down. How do you even compare? One way is with MPGe, or MPG equivalent where you take the electrical energy and just convert, knowing there are 33.7 KW-hrs in a gallon of gas, if you burn it. This is a pretty fair comparison, actually. If you buy a gallon of gas, it costs about $3.00. To buy 33.7 KW-hrs at 12 cents per, it would cost $4.00.
I compared a Hyundai Ioniq 5 with a Hyundai Tuscon (non-hybrid) - similar sized cars - using spreadsheet calculator I built and some trip profiles I created. Here's the result.
There's two really noticable things here. One is the EV is considerably more efficient than the ICE car. The second is the ICE car does better on highway trips than the ICE car on local trips. The EV is exactly the opposite!What the heck is going on? Is it because of how the cars are propelled or because the fundamental differences in design make EVs move down the road more easily?
There are two parts to making a car go: Propulsion and Resistance. Propulsion is what pushes the car forward - the engine or motor and the drive train than connects that to the wheels and wheels and tires to the road. Resistance is what pushes back against the propulsion - primarily the friction/rolling resistance between the tires and the road and the aerodynamic drag - pushing through the air. Another part of resistance is inertia, that is pushing to accelerate the car up to speed.
On the surface, resistance wouldn't seem to have much impact. The EV is a bit heavier, because of the propulsion battery. Even replacing a heavy engine and transaxle, the EV comes in at 4700 pounds vs 3900 for the ICE.Resistance
Let's start with the resistance. Here's the fancy equation for steady speed.
Where:
- cR = coefficient of rolling resistance
cD = drag coefficient
m = mass of vehicle
A = frontal surface area
g = acceleration of gravity
r = density of air
At 30 mph, you need 5.7 HP. At 60 mph, you need double, 11.3 HP.
If there was no aerodynamic drag, you'd get a steady 7.5 mi/KW-hr. It wouldn't matter how fast you went. It takes the same energy to move each mile regardless of speed. Speed just tells you how fast you have to supply that energy.
The 0.21 KW-hr to 60 mph doesn't look like much compared the 3.5 it takes to move the car a mile at 60 mph, but driving involves lots of braking for stop signs, traffic lights, traffic, etc. Every time you slow down, you have to spend some energy to accelerate again and that energy is later destroyed as heat from braking.
This is really simple for an EV and really complicated for an ICE car.
This is an engine map of a 2008 Toyota Camry. The x axis is the engine speed in RPM. The y axis is torque, which is a good proxy for throttle position (higher = more open). The curved lines with the scale on the RH side, are power (in KW - one KW = 0.746 HP) The rings in the middle are engine efficiency (in percent)
Putting it all together - Some simulated trips.
This shows exactly what many of us are familiar with. Best mileage on the highway. Worst in local driving. Really fast highway driving starts lowering fuel economy. But, the overall effect is a rather flat curve. The difference between suburban driving and highway driving is minimal.
What range would that 77.4 KW-hr battery give me at various speeds?
This shows the problem the engineers have in estimating the range to display on the dashboard. They have no idea how fast you are going to go, they only know how fast you've been going. Using recent history to estimate is the best they can do. So, if you've been doing a lot of local driving at 40 mph, it might show 350 miles range for a full battery. If start going a steady 80 mph, you're actual range is only 190 or so.
The thermal efficiency map for the I4 engine from a 2008 era Camry (derived from the I4 engine used in Ricardo baseline simulation for a standard car) (AKI 93 fuel)
Rolling resistance
Where:
- cR = coefficient of rolling resistance
cD = drag coefficient
m = mass of vehicle [kg]
A = frontal surface area [m2]
g = 9.8 m/s
r = density of are, 1.2 kg/m3 @STP
A typical value for the coefficient of rolling resistance is 0.015. The drag coefficient for cars varies, a value of 0.3 is commonly used.
grade resistance 20#/ton
https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/drag-equation#what-is-the-equation-for-drag-force
https://www.calculatorsoup.com/calculators/physics/kinetic.php
Thursday, September 26, 2024
Owning an EV - Road Trip!
![]() |
| Sheetz in Stephens City, VA |
So, that's 8 stops for a total of 2:44 dwell. Comparing it to a trip in 2021 in our old Audi Q5, we had six stops for a total of 1:08. The EV "cost" about 1:30 over the ICE car in this case. Note that this is LESS than the 1:56 "plugged in" time because a good chunk of that was unattended - getting food, restroom, etc.
![]() |
| Sheetz in Wytheville, VA |
![]() |
| EA charger at Walmart in Cordele, GA currently has 4 of 4 chargers available |
Monday, August 19, 2024
The first 1000 miles - owning an EV
We purchased and EV. A Hyundai Ioniq 5. We've driven in about 1200 miles so far. Here are some early thoughts.
![]() |
| Our EV |
It's a car. It has four doors, seats, accelerator, brake, steering wheel, etc. etc. Step on the brake and hit the start button and it turns on. Shift into D and it goes. It's a car! But...
It's ridiculously quiet. The loudest sound is road noise and it's pretty well insulated.
It's smooth. There is zero vibration or harshness from a gasoline engine. It's noticeably absent.
It's smooth, fast, and lots of fun to drive. We used to have an Audi Q5. It was fun to drive. This is better. In fact, I often say, "This is the car the Audi was trying to be." Why? Having the battery low and in the center of the car is ideal for handling. Low center of gravity. Low polar moment of inertia (weight not out past axles. closer to the center - why mid-engine sports cars are sought after). This makes for quick and secure handling. Power is super smooth. No shifts. Power is linear and predictable. No surprise downshifts or unwanted upshifts. No lag. Acceleration is mind-bending and all 300+ HP are available all the time at any speed, instantaneously. I haven't floored it, yet.
You can do one-pedal driving - if you want to. Or not. It's easy to set up for one or the other. How much regenerative braking is available when you back off the accelerator is variable using the "shifter" paddles on the steering wheel. One pedal driving means that letting your foot off the accelerator slows the car using regenerative braking. You can make the smoothest of stops and starts using one pedal driving. Most trips I don't touch the brake pedal at all, except in reverse.
It's a Hyundai, so the controls and displays are very similar to our Kia Telluride - part of the reason we chose it over other EVs - shallow learning curve and generally easy to use. Kia is owned be Hyundai.
It has some EV weirdness. Flush door handles that flip out when you approach with the key. Regular old door handle would be better and the aerodynamic argument is dumb - it's a tiny, tiny advantage. There is a lot less weirdness than in a Tesla, however.
It's range in local driving is much more than advertised. The claim is 262 miles. Actual range is 310-330 - and this with significant AC load - it's been hot!
The regenerative braking often captures 50% of the energy spent on propulsion. The more stop and go, the higher the percentage. In the trip below, 14 kWhs were spent moving the car - 9 net with 5 recaptured in braking, so 5/14 or 35% was recovered on this trip. Another two were spent keeping the car cool, the lights on and the 12 VDC battery charged. A total of 11 kWh for 44 miles of driving is 4 miles per kWh - about 50 cents of electricity.
![]() |
| This was a trip to the airport and back. Quite a bit of highway driving |
It's sooooo cheap to run. Cost per mile for energy so far is about 3 cents. Put another way, it's like having gas at 90 cents per gallon.
Charging at home is really simple. But, you do have to have a home charger installed on a 240 volt circuit. A clothes dryer circuit would be plenty and there are devices that allow you to switch between your clothes dryer and EV charging. We had a ChargePoint charger installed and can charge at 11KW (240 volts, 48 amps). Charging from 20% to 80% takes about 4 hours. Plug it in in the evening and unplug in the AM.
An EV battery is not a gas tank. You don't "fill-er-up" and drive to almost empty. You just top it up after most days you do any driving at all. It's a little bit better for the battery's overall life to keep the charge below 80%, so we rarely go above that. If it's above 60% at the end of the day, I'll skip charging unless a there's a lot of driving to do the next day. You start every day with "a full tank" without ever having to plan or make a trip to the gas station.
For what we sold our 1999 Expedition for, we purchased the home charger, had an electrician install it and had a Stealth Hitch 2" tow hitch installed for my bike rack.
| Old Ford on it's last day. |
Doing a road trip requires quite a bit more planning... The winning solution requires that you plan to charge and take a rest break at the same location. It looks like a 15 minute stop every 150 miles would do the trick - the Ioniq charges really quickly on the fastest DC chargers. That's likely going to be a bit longer than trips in the Telluride, but not by much. We haven't taken a trip that requires topping up at a fast DC charger yet. There are quite a few trip planning tools out there - ABRP app for one (A Better Route Planner) - and I've planned a few hypotheticals. I'll let you know about how that goes that in a future post. Full disclosure - we still own the Telly. It has 3 row seating, hauls a lot and is best for road trips where we take the dog. But, for all our day trips, it's the Ioniq that we go to.
So, that's the first 1200 miles. So far, tons of fun!









